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John M

Daniel, I want to think that you are correct here - that much art, even modern art, carries an image of transcendance. I know the reports for van Gogh, Rembrandt, and recently Warhol. But, I am an ignorant dude in this field. Can you give some more examples based on your extensive knowledge?

Gierschickwork

Excellent post, Daniel; thank you. I once read a quote labeling my favorite church father, Irenaeus, as being "woolly". It feels like less of a put-down now.

uues

Dan -- a great piece.
Interestingly, Ksenia Pokrovsky -- a prominent living Russian iconographer makes the point that iconography and art are distinct and must remain so. Her reason is simple: art in the Western tradition places the individual talent at the center and the tradition at the periphery (as a resource to be pilfered, sampled, drawn upon). The Eastern (Orthodox) tradition sees the individual talent as servant of the tradition -- even when, as in Rublev's Trinity, that talent is stellar.
Also interestingly (post-Vasari), the biography of the artist is central to our valuing of art -- and little is known of Rublev precisely because, as Eliot says in his famous essay, "No poet, no artist of any art, has his complete meaning alone. His significance, his appreciation is the appreciation of his relation to the dead poets and artists. You cannot value him alone; you must set him, for contrast and comparison, among the dead..."

Ann Maree Clark

I have a copy of this icon above my dining table - I've always had a kind of respect for it quite different in nature to my respect for or enjoyment of other artwork. Your analysis is really helpful. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and insight into its history and purpose.

Matthew Milliner

Ecclesially and epistemologically starved Protestants need to understand something: The "New Monasticism" can only succeed if backed by the real thing; "spiritual practices" at Christian colleges are dangerous absent the historically tested pre-Reformation liturgies; and church arts programs" and discussion groups are just playing around absent serious considerations of the icon such as this one. Thank you Dan.

Abbey

Thank you Daniel! I came across your article in The City several weeks ago, about the same time I was taking my first icon painting class. I am a practicing Catholic who converted from the Protestant faith, and I'm also an artist and art teacher. Your writing hits at the very heart of what I've been trying to recognize and discover in the art world myself. I really appreciate your ecumenical approach toward the understanding of icons. I believe the purpose of their reemergence today is ecumenical. Western thinkers can understand and have a longing for the experience of icons in their faith.

Jay

Hi. I was just wondering how you would relate what you have said here to the Islamic attitude to images and icons - of the divine or of any sort.

Ruth Neil

Thank you Dan for your article.I was deeply moved by your insight.Thank you for opening up to me yet another wonderful way God communicates to his children


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